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  • @phenomlab said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    By default, Virtualmin based domains have email which is accessible at https://yourserver.com:20000

    hmmm acess seem to work, I log with root but Inbox doesnโ€™t seem to load correctly.

    fd195731-4b44-4671-a6e3-9740be4ebd70-image.png

    After a moment I have this message :

    f3455b91-f7d0-4ed8-80cd-447248289046-image.png

    If I log with my root account like always, I have this :

    e27442e8-fd73-478f-b8ca-62e274b5413a-image.png

    EDIT: seems Ok with other account. Seems root account doesnโ€™t have inbox


    @phenomlab said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    The MX record root.phenomlab.com is my VPS server

    what is root.phenomlab.com on your virtualmin? itโ€™s not a virtual server, jsut your hostname i guess

    For example, I am login to virtualmin on adm.xxxx.fr (hostname of my server) so my mx field should be adm.xxxx.fr and not root.xxxx.fr right?

    for dmarc and dkim, iโ€™am not see for the moment, i see later

    โ€” EDIT:

    my Dmarc configuration

    fe134949-48ad-4b52-96d8-00dd32f12762-image.png

  • 17e39798-932a-497f-8502-f7a8ac7983c1-image.png

    DMARC =

    v=DMARC1;p=reject;sp=reject;pct=100;rua=mailto:xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.fr;ruf=mailto:xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.fr;ri=86400;aspf=s;adkim=s;fo=1;
    

    What do you think about it ?

    For DKIM, I donโ€™t quite understand. Once generated in the tools you gave, I understand for the DNS entry in CF but what do I do with the private and public key?

    9abcfcf9-f108-4698-bd0c-d1e26f83123d-image.png

  • Ok I have test to send an email with usermin. No error but email but I donโ€™t receive the email

  • Ok I have test to send an email with usermin. No error but email but I donโ€™t receive the email

    See this to mail queue :

    0a54ffd1-49a0-49e4-ad0e-9ea0b64995e0-image.png

    /var/log/mail.log

    Feb 20 21:26:24 adm postfix/smtp[674993]: E1205627B7: to=<xxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=4339, delays=4279/0.03/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:26:24 adm postfix/smtp[674993]: connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out
    

    Very strange. Iโ€™ll stop there for tonight.

  • Ok I have test to send an email with usermin. No error but email but I donโ€™t receive the email

    See this to mail queue :

    0a54ffd1-49a0-49e4-ad0e-9ea0b64995e0-image.png

    /var/log/mail.log

    Feb 20 21:26:24 adm postfix/smtp[674993]: E1205627B7: to=<xxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=4339, delays=4279/0.03/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:26:24 adm postfix/smtp[674993]: connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out
    

    Very strange. Iโ€™ll stop there for tonight.

    @DownPW that looks like the port (25) is unreachable. Have you configured the firewall in your Virtualmin server to permit this outbound traffic? Similarly, do you have any other firewall type device between the server and the Internet which could be dropping packets?

  • no Hetzner firewall configured
    no crowdsec

    I have just firewalld of virtualmin by default. I have add 25 and 587 port. Same problem

    image.png

    other log :

    Feb 20 21:40:11 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.179] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:40:11 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.179]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:40:05 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.179]
    Feb 20 21:40:05 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: hostname 179.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.179
    Feb 20 21:39:54 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.179] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:54 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.179]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:50 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.128] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:50 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.128]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:47 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.179]
    Feb 20 21:39:47 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: hostname 179.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.179
    Feb 20 21:39:39 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.128]
    Feb 20 21:39:39 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: hostname 128.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.128
    Feb 20 21:39:38 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.179] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:37 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.179]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:32 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.128] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:32 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.128]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:30 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.179]
    Feb 20 21:39:30 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: hostname 179.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.179
    Feb 20 21:39:24 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.128]
    Feb 20 21:39:24 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: hostname 128.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.128
    Feb 20 21:39:22 adm postfix/smtp[679066]: 1AD316278E: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=3410, delays=3260/0.03/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4025:c03::1a]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:39:22 adm postfix/smtp[679066]: connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4025:c03::1a]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:39:19 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.179] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:19 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.179]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:17 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.128] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:16 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.128]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:12 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.179]
    Feb 20 21:39:12 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: hostname 179.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.179
    Feb 20 21:39:08 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.128]
    Feb 20 21:39:08 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: hostname 128.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.128
    Feb 20 21:39:02 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.179] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:01 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.179]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:39:01 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.128] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:39:00 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.128]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:38:55 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.179]
    Feb 20 21:38:55 adm postfix/smtpd[679911]: warning: hostname 179.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.179
    Feb 20 21:38:53 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.128]
    Feb 20 21:38:53 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: hostname 128.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.128
    Feb 20 21:38:52 adm postfix/smtp[679066]: connect to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c16::1b]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:38:44 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: disconnect from unknown[45.129.14.128] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=1 quit=1 commands=3/4
    Feb 20 21:38:43 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: unknown[45.129.14.128]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
    Feb 20 21:38:38 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: connect from unknown[45.129.14.128]
    Feb 20 21:38:38 adm postfix/smtpd[679903]: warning: hostname 128.hosted-by.198xd.com does not resolve to address 45.129.14.128
    Feb 20 21:38:22 adm postfix/smtp[678126]: 73987627BE: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=3350, delays=3200/0.03/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4025:c03::1a]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:38:22 adm postfix/smtp[678126]: connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4025:c03::1a]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:38:22 adm postfix/smtp[679066]: connect to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.250.153.26]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[678126]: connect to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c16::1b]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/error[679677]: 20D20627C1: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=5027, delays=4967/60/0/0.01, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/error[679676]: 225BB627B7: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=3784, delays=3724/60/0/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679070]: 1ED2A627AB: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=4432, delays=4372/0.08/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679070]: connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/error[679676]: 1FBDB627B3: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=3500, delays=3440/60/0/0.01, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679069]: 1DE7B62796: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=4587, delays=4527/0.07/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679068]: 1D536627AE: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=4531, delays=4471/0.05/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679067]: 1C5D3627B6: to=<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@caramail.com>, relay=none, delay=3815, delays=3755/0.04/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out)
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679069]: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679068]: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679067]: connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:52 adm postfix/smtp[679066]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.250.110.27]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:22 adm postfix/smtp[678126]: connect to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.250.153.26]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:22 adm postfix/smtp[679070]: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:22 adm postfix/smtp[679069]: connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:22 adm postfix/smtp[679068]: connect to mx00.caramail.com[212.227.15.30]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:22 adm postfix/smtp[679067]: connect to mx01.caramail.com[217.72.192.76]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:22 adm postfix/smtp[679066]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:400c:c0b::1b]:25: Connection timed out
    Feb 20 21:37:05 adm postfix/anvil[677271]: statistics: max cache size 3 at Feb 20 21:27:30
    Feb 20 21:37:05 adm postfix/anvil[677271]: statistics: max connection count 1 for (smtp:45.88.90.174) at Feb 20 21:27:05
    Feb 20 21:37:05 adm postfix/anvil[677271]: statistics: max connection rate 4/60s for (smtp:45.129.14.128) at Feb 20 21:28:06
    Feb 20 21:36:52 adm postfix/smtp[678126]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.250.110.27]:25: Connection timed out
    
  • Seems port 25 OK

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  • @phenomlab said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    By default, Virtualmin based domains have email which is accessible at https://yourserver.com:20000

    hmmm acess seem to work, I log with root but Inbox doesnโ€™t seem to load correctly.

    fd195731-4b44-4671-a6e3-9740be4ebd70-image.png

    After a moment I have this message :

    f3455b91-f7d0-4ed8-80cd-447248289046-image.png

    If I log with my root account like always, I have this :

    e27442e8-fd73-478f-b8ca-62e274b5413a-image.png

    EDIT: seems Ok with other account. Seems root account doesnโ€™t have inbox


    @phenomlab said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    The MX record root.phenomlab.com is my VPS server

    what is root.phenomlab.com on your virtualmin? itโ€™s not a virtual server, jsut your hostname i guess

    For example, I am login to virtualmin on adm.xxxx.fr (hostname of my server) so my mx field should be adm.xxxx.fr and not root.xxxx.fr right?

    for dmarc and dkim, iโ€™am not see for the moment, i see later

    โ€” EDIT:

    my Dmarc configuration

    fe134949-48ad-4b52-96d8-00dd32f12762-image.png

    @DownPW said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    For example, I am login to virtualmin on adm.xxxx.fr (hostname of my server) so my mx field should be adm.xxxx.fr and not root.xxxx.fr right?

    Yes, correct.

    @DownPW said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    For DKIM, I donโ€™t quite understand. Once generated in the tools you gave, I understand for the DNS entry in CF but what do I do with the private and public key?

    The private and public key can simply be stored. You do not have to do anything with these.

  • Seems port 25 OK

    image.png

    @DownPW said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    Seems port 25 OK

    Not sure about that - see below from your server. When sending a telnet request on port 25, there is no response. This typically means the port is closed on your side.

    71978ee1-8be0-41d5-ae6b-68742f02cbd5-image.png

    What SHOULD happen is this

    990ed97c-4449-4936-8c78-95268828839e-image.png

    However, it DOES respond on port 587

    236cd744-7126-4c72-b67e-40b53b2b70f0-image.png

    From recollection, your VPS is being hosted by Hetzner. Although you have no firewall rules in place to prevent outbound connections on port 25, Hetzner by default will block this port until youโ€™ve paid at least one monthโ€™s billing, and will only release the block if you formally request it. Youโ€™ll need to get the port unblocked before you can proceed - see below

    https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/servers/faq/#why-can-i-not-send-any-mails-from-my-server

    Unfortunately, email spammers and scammers like to use cloud hosting providers. And we at Hetzner naturally want to prevent this. Thatโ€™s why we block ports 25 and 465 by default on all cloud servers. This is a very common practice in the cloud hosting industry because it prevents abuse. We want to build trust with our new customers before we unblock these mail ports. Once you have been with us for a month and paid your first invoice, you can create a limit request to unblock these ports for a valid use case. In your request, you can tell us details about your use case. We make decisions on a case-by-case basis.

    As an alternative, you can also use port 587 to send emails via external mail delivery services. Port 587 is not blocked and can be used without sending a limit request.

  • OUPS ๐Ÿ™‚

    Ok so I think itโ€™s Hetzner who is blocking.
    I will make them an unblocking request.

  • OUPS ๐Ÿ™‚

    Ok so I think itโ€™s Hetzner who is blocking.
    I will make them an unblocking request.

    @DownPW Yep ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Indeed. +1 for telnet.

    I just trusted the netstats which told me that everything is OK which is certainly the case on the server.

    since I didnโ€™t have Telnet on hand I tested a website which told me OK

    ba38b6b1-1bbc-497a-b787-81edf7662a6b-image.png

  • Indeed. +1 for telnet.

    I just trusted the netstats which told me that everything is OK which is certainly the case on the server.

    since I didnโ€™t have Telnet on hand I tested a website which told me OK

    ba38b6b1-1bbc-497a-b787-81edf7662a6b-image.png

    @DownPW said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    since I didnโ€™t have Telnet on hand I tested a website which told me OK

    I have to confess, I installed the telnet-client on your server for diagnostic purposes.

  • OUPS ๐Ÿ™‚

    Ok so I think itโ€™s Hetzner who is blocking.
    I will make them an unblocking request.

    @DownPW said in Tutorial for secure emailing with personal domain,Cloudflare, virtualmin and postfix:

    I will make them an unblocking request.

    Curious to know how you got on with thisโ€ฆ

  • sorry for the late response my friends. They unblocked port 25 very quickly and I can send emails;

    Just that the domains in caramail.com refused my sending of email for obscure reasons and protonmail, I receive them but in spam with an error message

    I will share all its errors with you to see and I would like to deepen that the DMARC, and DKIM puts the private/public key which I do not really understand (see my request above)

    https://sudonix.org/post/8462

  • sorry for the late response my friends. They unblocked port 25 very quickly and I can send emails;

    Just that the domains in caramail.com refused my sending of email for obscure reasons and protonmail, I receive them but in spam with an error message

    I will share all its errors with you to see and I would like to deepen that the DMARC, and DKIM puts the private/public key which I do not really understand (see my request above)

    https://sudonix.org/post/8462

    @DownPW emails are going to junk because of missing DNS records as I mentioned previously. You wonโ€™t need to use the public and private keys unless you need extended and/or advanced functions.

  • I have the DNS pointers present

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  • I have the DNS pointers present

    image.png

    @DownPW not all are there. The SPF record is missing. Thatโ€™s enough to place email you sent into junk at the recipient end.

  • Spf is on the screenshot

  • Spf is on the screenshot

    @DownPW sorry, yes, it is. Completely missed that.


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