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    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac Let’s click “Enable Backups”. This way, you don’t need to worry about it, and they are very cheap.

    Even though it won’t be using that backup anymore?

    What I’m saying is if I won’t be using it I don’t want to pay for it 😉 😉 .

    As in realistically my County forum is finished unfortunately.

    Would that not be the same as the backup I downloaded?

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    @jac If you don’t want to pay for it anymore, then you’ll need to power off and delete the instance also. Hetzner will still charge you for a powered-off instance, and the only way to stop that charge is to delete.

  • JAC JAC

    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac Let’s click “Enable Backups”. This way, you don’t need to worry about it, and they are very cheap.

    Even though it won’t be using that backup anymore?

    What I’m saying is if I won’t be using it I don’t want to pay for it 😉 😉 .

    As in realistically my County forum is finished unfortunately.

    Would that not be the same as the backup I downloaded?

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    @jac No. This is just the backup for the domain itself. Backup at server level means you can recover the entire machine.

  • @jac If you don’t want to pay for it anymore, then you’ll need to power off and delete the instance also. Hetzner will still charge you for a powered-off instance, and the only way to stop that charge is to delete.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    If you don’t want to pay for it anymore, then you’ll need to power off and delete the instance also. Hetzner will still charge you for a powered-off instance, and the only way to stop that charge is to delete.

    I understand mate…

    That may be the best option until I come up with something else, do you think?

  • @jac No. This is just the backup for the domain itself. Backup at server level means you can recover the entire machine.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    No. This is just the backup for the domain itself. Backup at server level means you can recover the entire machine.

    Ah I see. thanks Mark 🙂 .

  • JAC JAC

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    If you don’t want to pay for it anymore, then you’ll need to power off and delete the instance also. Hetzner will still charge you for a powered-off instance, and the only way to stop that charge is to delete.

    I understand mate…

    That may be the best option until I come up with something else, do you think?

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    @jac agreed. Particularly if you intend to leave it for an extended period of time, then yes, that makes the most sense. Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

  • @jac agreed. Particularly if you intend to leave it for an extended period of time, then yes, that makes the most sense. Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac agreed. Particularly if you intend to leave it for an extended period of time, then yes, that makes the most sense. Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Unfortunately yes, I think that would be the best solution.

    A blog & forum about Stockport may be hard to do possibly in terms of content, & a church based website and forum could get messy 😛 it just depends how it was done.

    If it’s for a single church then it wouldn’t work out in my eyes, it would have to be for anyone to view.

  • @jac agreed. Particularly if you intend to leave it for an extended period of time, then yes, that makes the most sense. Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

    Ok, what’s the scenario to shut my account down? do I still need to take a full backup via Hetzner?

  • JAC JAC

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac agreed. Particularly if you intend to leave it for an extended period of time, then yes, that makes the most sense. Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Unfortunately yes, I think that would be the best solution.

    A blog & forum about Stockport may be hard to do possibly in terms of content, & a church based website and forum could get messy 😛 it just depends how it was done.

    If it’s for a single church then it wouldn’t work out in my eyes, it would have to be for anyone to view.

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    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac agreed. Particularly if you intend to leave it for an extended period of time, then yes, that makes the most sense. Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Unfortunately yes, I think that would be the best solution.

    A blog & forum about Stockport may be hard to do possibly in terms of content, & a church based website and forum could get messy 😛 it just depends how it was done.

    If it’s for a single church then it wouldn’t work out in my eyes, it would have to be for anyone to view.

    Either that or a tech forum & blog. The idea of something local to me like a Stockport blog would be good but getting hold of information would be difficult.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    Just remember that if you do decide to embark on that same journey again, the server itself, plus Webmin, Virtualmin, etc, all has to be created from scratch.

    Ok, what’s the scenario to shut my account down? do I still need to take a full backup via Hetzner?

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    @jac No, you can simply power down and delete the machine.

  • @jac No, you can simply power down and delete the machine.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac No, you can simply power down and delete the machine.

    Thanks. I’ll do this shortly.

  • JAC JAC

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac No, you can simply power down and delete the machine.

    Thanks. I’ll do this shortly.

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    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac No, you can simply power down and delete the machine.

    Thanks. I’ll do this shortly.

    Screenshot 2022-02-08 at 13-48-59 Server · Hetzner Cloud.png

    Delete & power off? is there anything else I would need to do before I do this mate?

  • JAC JAC

    @jac said in WordPress site:

    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac No, you can simply power down and delete the machine.

    Thanks. I’ll do this shortly.

    Screenshot 2022-02-08 at 13-48-59 Server · Hetzner Cloud.png

    Delete & power off? is there anything else I would need to do before I do this mate?

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    @jac Nope

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac Nope

    Thanks Mark.

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    @phenomlab said in WordPress site:

    @jac Nope

    Done…

  • JAC JAC

    For anyone looking at a simple way to blog the new recommendation from @phenomlab is Ghost CMS.

    It’s Wordpress OUT, and Ghost IN it seems! *preference based 😉 .

    From my early viewing Ghost loads up super quick! it also seems very streamlined and modern compared to Wordpress, less bloat with the plugins, and more of a limited approach, something that I’d say helps, but the thing that clearly separates the two CMS’s is speed 100%! I mean who wants a slow loading site? - not me! 😛

    I can only say my experience is purely on a viewing basis and not from the admin area (back-end) or anything of that nature, it’s just purely from the front-end only.

    Here’s some examples of sites using Ghost.

    https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Ghost

    Disclaimer: May get hooked after viewing

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    @jac said in WordPress site:

    It’s Wordpress OUT, and Ghost IN it seems! *preference based .

    Even County’s site uses Wordpress 😉 . Although that does serve it’s purpose.


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    @phenomlab said in Hardening WordPress - Reducing the attack vector: @jac Microsoft’s and Google’s Authenticator both support TOTP - essentially, a time based system that changes every 30 seconds. The main principle here is that the device itself carrying the One Time Passcode only needs to be in sync with the source server in terms of time, and can be completely offline with no internet access. Provided the time matches on both devices, the One Time Passcode will be accepted. Applications such as Microsoft Authenticator and Authy also support push notification meaning you just choose either yes or no on your device when prompted, and then that response is sent back to the origin which then determines if access is granted or not. One of the best looking password less authentication models was CLEF - sadly, this product died out due to a lack of funding (if I recall correctly) although some open source implementations of this have appeared quite recently. Essentially, both products will achieve the same goal. TOTP is an industry standard, and widely accepted across the board. Not all services offer push confirmation. Many thanks for the detailed reply mate. There’s some great advice in there that will help me secure my accounts.
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