Is plesk good over virtual min?

[Hari]

Hi, i see plesk is more easy to handle the server and i would like to go with plesk but will have have full ssh control over server? I can install redies right?

I agree both will have their own advantages and disadvantages but most likely i will only run flarum in this droplet and I will be needing light speed cache, somone has developed a extension for flarum

[phenomlab]

@hari said in Is plesk good over virtual min?:

want to ask another question do not hesitate : D is cyber panel good? Or it will also adds more TTFB ?

Of course ! I personally have never used Cyber Panel, but from what I understand, it does have some issues.

@hari said in Is plesk good over virtual min?:

The reason i am asking is virtual min looks so old, i have am more found of cpanel and new to managing servers

VirtualMin has been around a number of years, but trust me, it’s not old. I think you may be looking at early incarnations of screenshots, which admittedly make it look like Windows 3.11, or like it was developed in the 90’s However, I can assure you that this is not the case. VirtualMin is constantly updated, and don’t be fooled by it’s lack of shiny interface. Just ask @justoverclock, @JAC, and @Madchatthew who recently converted to VirtualMin after input from me what they think of the platform.

Yes, there’s a steep learning curve, but it’s infinitely more powerful than cPanel, far cheaper than Plesk, and uses a barebones footprint on install. No bloat, nothing unnecessary, but blazingly fast. Plus, VirtualMin has full backup capabilities which actually work without issue.

[phenomlab]

@hari The jury is generally “out” on this one. Yes, Plesk is a very powerful platform that has distinct advantages over VirtualMin, but it’s not free. In most cases, taking an agreement from a hosting provider offering Plesk will usually mean a monthly cost for the license to use the platform itself. See below

As you can see, Plesk can be VERY expensive. Some VPS providers such as IONOS bundle Plesk into their products, so it then becomes more attractive to take as an option. However, not all that glitters is gold. The major plus with VirtualMin is that things are done the “stock” way in the sense that there is no bloat, and therefore, no unnecessary components that could cause slowness.

Having used Plesk via IONOS for a number of years, be warned - it’s quirky in terms of setup. it’s not “raw” NGINX as you’d expect - more of a proxy for Apache in fact. It’s possible to disable Apache, but it’s a “Plesk” build of NGINX meaning that you can’t easily interchange components.

Yes, there’s lots to love about Plesk, but even backup applications come at a cost - nothing is truly free unlike VirtualMin.

[phenomlab]

@hari said in Is plesk good over virtual min?:

I agree both will have their own advantages and disadvantages but most likely i will only run flarum in this droplet and I will be needing light speed cache, somone has developed a extension for flarum

My advice ? DON’T do this. You’ll regret it. Plesk will add TTFB of over 300-500ms on top of Flarum which is already very bad when it comes to speed in general with the more extensions you add.

As a final point, Sudonix is VirtualMin backed

[Hari]

@phenomlab Thanks for opening up eyes and explaining the complications.

want to ask another question do not hesitate : D is cyber panel good? Or it will also adds more TTFB?

The reason i am asking is virtual min looks so old, i have am more found of cpanel and new to managing servers

As you say sudonix is using virtual min that certifies as it can be used in production environments

I will go with virtual min

[phenomlab]

@hari said in Is plesk good over virtual min?:

want to ask another question do not hesitate : D is cyber panel good? Or it will also adds more TTFB ?

Of course ! I personally have never used Cyber Panel, but from what I understand, it does have some issues.

@hari said in Is plesk good over virtual min?:

The reason i am asking is virtual min looks so old, i have am more found of cpanel and new to managing servers

VirtualMin has been around a number of years, but trust me, it’s not old. I think you may be looking at early incarnations of screenshots, which admittedly make it look like Windows 3.11, or like it was developed in the 90’s However, I can assure you that this is not the case. VirtualMin is constantly updated, and don’t be fooled by it’s lack of shiny interface. Just ask @justoverclock, @JAC, and @Madchatthew who recently converted to VirtualMin after input from me what they think of the platform.

Yes, there’s a steep learning curve, but it’s infinitely more powerful than cPanel, far cheaper than Plesk, and uses a barebones footprint on install. No bloat, nothing unnecessary, but blazingly fast. Plus, VirtualMin has full backup capabilities which actually work without issue.

[Hari]

@phenomlab thank you