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    #76

    @phenomlab I wonder the specifics…

    Article does not give much info except this paragraph…

    Generative AI systems such as OpenAI’s ChatGPT have become increasingly ubiquitous in recent months - wowing users with their ability to create text, photos and songs but also causing concerns around jobs, privacy and copyright protection.

    So, I guess it is mostly related to copyright protection and privacy etc.

  • @phenomlab I wonder the specifics…

    Article does not give much info except this paragraph…

    Generative AI systems such as OpenAI’s ChatGPT have become increasingly ubiquitous in recent months - wowing users with their ability to create text, photos and songs but also causing concerns around jobs, privacy and copyright protection.

    So, I guess it is mostly related to copyright protection and privacy etc.

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    #77

    @crazycells it does seem that way, yes. Although Sky News frequently update their articles so worth checking back periodically.

  • @phenomlab I wonder the specifics…

    Article does not give much info except this paragraph…

    Generative AI systems such as OpenAI’s ChatGPT have become increasingly ubiquitous in recent months - wowing users with their ability to create text, photos and songs but also causing concerns around jobs, privacy and copyright protection.

    So, I guess it is mostly related to copyright protection and privacy etc.

    wrote on last edited by
    #78

    @crazycells I think the most concerning part of that article is this

    Officials provided few details on what will make it into the eventual law, which will not take effect until 2025 at the earliest.

    If that truly is the case, then how do we gain any comfort that what does make it into law is for for purpose?

  • @crazycells I think the most concerning part of that article is this

    Officials provided few details on what will make it into the eventual law, which will not take effect until 2025 at the earliest.

    If that truly is the case, then how do we gain any comfort that what does make it into law is for for purpose?

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    #79

    @phenomlab I think this is thought to be main frame and base for future rather than comprehensive instructions. I wonder if it will change anything at all…

    By the way, aren’t most of these AI repo open source? So anyone can use it the way they want?.. It is like saying “do not share copyrighted material” but they cannot prevent piracy… So, I guess it will be something similar with AI… I mean people will use the copyrighted books to train their algorithm and will not acknowledge this…

  • @phenomlab I think this is thought to be main frame and base for future rather than comprehensive instructions. I wonder if it will change anything at all…

    By the way, aren’t most of these AI repo open source? So anyone can use it the way they want?.. It is like saying “do not share copyrighted material” but they cannot prevent piracy… So, I guess it will be something similar with AI… I mean people will use the copyrighted books to train their algorithm and will not acknowledge this…

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    #80

    @crazycells yes, I think so too. But, even frameworks require some form of basis and to not provide even a synopsis of that makes me wonder if it even exists yet.

  • wrote on last edited by phenomlab
    #81

    This is interesting. Who knew that Deep Fake images also were the victim of poor Photoshop skills 🙂

    https://news.sky.com/story/fake-ai-images-keep-going-viral-here-are-eight-that-have-caught-people-out-13028547

    On a serious note, these AI generated images can be hugely damaging. Just look at the amount of times these fake images have been shared across social media sites. They say a picture speaks a thousand words - yet in this case, none of those words would have any true bearing or be factual.

  • This is interesting. Who knew that Deep Fake images also were the victim of poor Photoshop skills 🙂

    https://news.sky.com/story/fake-ai-images-keep-going-viral-here-are-eight-that-have-caught-people-out-13028547

    On a serious note, these AI generated images can be hugely damaging. Just look at the amount of times these fake images have been shared across social media sites. They say a picture speaks a thousand words - yet in this case, none of those words would have any true bearing or be factual.

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    #82

    @phenomlab I agree… as once one of the greatest AI, internet and technology expert Abraham said…

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  • This is interesting. Who knew that Deep Fake images also were the victim of poor Photoshop skills 🙂

    https://news.sky.com/story/fake-ai-images-keep-going-viral-here-are-eight-that-have-caught-people-out-13028547

    On a serious note, these AI generated images can be hugely damaging. Just look at the amount of times these fake images have been shared across social media sites. They say a picture speaks a thousand words - yet in this case, none of those words would have any true bearing or be factual.

    wrote on last edited by
    #83

    @phenomlab I guess there might be ways to solve this problem…

    Most logical way is that people should stop using social media as news site… But we all know that this will never happen… So, easiest solution could be tagging each shared caps or photo on the picture (not in the instructions) as “real”, “art”, “satire”, “ai-made” etc…

  • @phenomlab I agree… as once one of the greatest AI, internet and technology expert Abraham said…

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    wrote on last edited by
    #84

    @crazycells Exactly. A great analogy.

  • @phenomlab I guess there might be ways to solve this problem…

    Most logical way is that people should stop using social media as news site… But we all know that this will never happen… So, easiest solution could be tagging each shared caps or photo on the picture (not in the instructions) as “real”, “art”, “satire”, “ai-made” etc…

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    #85

    @crazycells Great ideas, but people read news outside of social media? 😄

  • @crazycells Great ideas, but people read news outside of social media? 😄

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    #86

    @phenomlab not anymore… lol…

    that is why those sites should mark each photos/caps etc.

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    #88

    Oh dear. This was only a matter of time and when rather than “if”

    https://news.sky.com/story/the-new-york-times-sues-openai-and-microsoft-over-copyright-infringement-13038277

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    #89

    @phenomlab this sounds like a technical error; because I have seen the same story being headlined as if “robot attacked human”…

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    #90

    @phenomlab

    billions of dollars in damages are owed for “unlawful copying and use of The Times’s uniquely valuable works”.

    so, they create “valuable work” but they can only earn money out of this by suing others… lol…

  • @phenomlab this sounds like a technical error; because I have seen the same story being headlined as if “robot attacked human”…

    wrote on last edited by phenomlab
    #91

    @crazycells interesting indeed! I do agree actually - it does say in the article that it was a programming error, and one machine out of three was left running when the other two were shut down.

  • @phenomlab

    billions of dollars in damages are owed for “unlawful copying and use of The Times’s uniquely valuable works”.

    so, they create “valuable work” but they can only earn money out of this by suing others… lol…

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    #92

    @crazycells said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:

    so, they create “valuable work” but they can only earn money out of this by suing others… lol…

    Yes, exactly. I’d be questioning the “valuable work”

  • @crazycells said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:

    so, they create “valuable work” but they can only earn money out of this by suing others… lol…

    Yes, exactly. I’d be questioning the “valuable work”

    wrote on last edited by
    #93

    @phenomlab this reminds me old times when Uber came out… and arrogant NYC cab drivers complaining about Uber, how it is very bad for them…

    eventually public benefit should be taken into consideration by the court…

  • @phenomlab this reminds me old times when Uber came out… and arrogant NYC cab drivers complaining about Uber, how it is very bad for them…

    eventually public benefit should be taken into consideration by the court…

    wrote on last edited by
    #94

    @crazycells UK cab drivers did exactly the same!

  • @crazycells interesting indeed! I do agree actually - it does say in the article that it was a programming error, and one machine out of three was left running when the other two were shut down.

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    #95

    @phenomlab yes, I personally believe this version of the story… I am quite sure the accident is technical error… but you know how media is… they “love” spreading fear… so they intentionally spreading this news as “robot-uprising”… lol…


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